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	<title>Comments on: The Machinations of Erotism: Jealousy (or Moritheil is a Giant Idiot)</title>
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		<title>By: Rakuen</title>
		<link>http://www.oniichannoecchi.com/2009/05/18/the-machinations-of-erotism-jealousy-or-moritheil-is-a-giant-idiot/#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator>Rakuen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was a real Machinations post or podcast or something.

Damn you.

I think virginity isn&#039;t an issue as long as you&#039;re enjoying sex with the chick and you two have hot sweaty fuck. That&#039;s the best. Fuck virginity, that&#039;s just plus points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was a real Machinations post or podcast or something.</p>
<p>Damn you.</p>
<p>I think virginity isn&#8217;t an issue as long as you&#8217;re enjoying sex with the chick and you two have hot sweaty fuck. That&#8217;s the best. Fuck virginity, that&#8217;s just plus points.</p>
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		<title>By: moritheil</title>
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		<dc:creator>moritheil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 12:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, sure. When I talk of cultural constructs, these constructs do of course arise from deeper levels (which is what you got into above.)

It&#039;s just, &quot;That’s not really where the issue stems from and it’s not the way to go about fixing it&quot; is more or less what I said.  I acknowledged the feminist angle and questioned its applicability to this discussion.  Thus, I facepalmed when I read your statement.  When I talked about &quot;fixing&quot; things I meant that the feminist reading would look upon cultural assumptions of virginity as things to be fixed.  I did not mean the workings of the deeper reptilian brain, which, as you&#039;ve said, probably &lt;i&gt;can&#039;t&lt;i&gt; be fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sure. When I talk of cultural constructs, these constructs do of course arise from deeper levels (which is what you got into above.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just, &#8220;That’s not really where the issue stems from and it’s not the way to go about fixing it&#8221; is more or less what I said.  I acknowledged the feminist angle and questioned its applicability to this discussion.  Thus, I facepalmed when I read your statement.  When I talked about &#8220;fixing&#8221; things I meant that the feminist reading would look upon cultural assumptions of virginity as things to be fixed.  I did not mean the workings of the deeper reptilian brain, which, as you&#8217;ve said, probably <i>can&#8217;t</i><i> be fixed.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Onii-chan</title>
		<link>http://www.oniichannoecchi.com/2009/05/18/the-machinations-of-erotism-jealousy-or-moritheil-is-a-giant-idiot/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>Onii-chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 12:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I pretty much just skimmed over it. I&#039;m lazy.

Haha.

But still, I think understanding the fundamentals is necessary. I mean, just look at the idea of behind &quot;You guys can&#039;t get women, is that it?&quot; It&#039;s the same principle. The guys want to make themselves feel more capable and more important be deriding the other guy baselessly. Blah blah blah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I pretty much just skimmed over it. I&#8217;m lazy.</p>
<p>Haha.</p>
<p>But still, I think understanding the fundamentals is necessary. I mean, just look at the idea of behind &#8220;You guys can&#8217;t get women, is that it?&#8221; It&#8217;s the same principle. The guys want to make themselves feel more capable and more important be deriding the other guy baselessly. Blah blah blah.</p>
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		<title>By: moritheil</title>
		<link>http://www.oniichannoecchi.com/2009/05/18/the-machinations-of-erotism-jealousy-or-moritheil-is-a-giant-idiot/#comment-1264</link>
		<dc:creator>moritheil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 12:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article.  Permit me, if you would, to comment on a few things you have credited me with saying that aren&#039;t actually what I said.

I don&#039;t argue that discourse on this topic &lt;i&gt;degenerates&lt;/i&gt; into a feminist argument; rather I recognize the right to read it from the standpoint of a feminist critique.  I merely don&#039;t find it terribly helpful to do so because this is a case of men bashing other men for their ideals of 2D women.  You&#039;ve also overgeneralized my statement that there is a cultural expectation of virginity in women, by &lt;i&gt;certain groups of men&lt;/i&gt;, to &quot;all men expect virginity.&quot;  Perhaps that generalization sounds shallow, but it isn&#039;t mine.  There is nuance missing here that was present in my article.

In any case my handling of the matter is primarily concerned with the superficial criticism (&quot;You guys can&#039;t get women, is that it?&quot;) leveled at 2ch otaku by Western otaku.  It does not attempt to be a fundamental dissection of the underlying issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.  Permit me, if you would, to comment on a few things you have credited me with saying that aren&#8217;t actually what I said.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t argue that discourse on this topic <i>degenerates</i> into a feminist argument; rather I recognize the right to read it from the standpoint of a feminist critique.  I merely don&#8217;t find it terribly helpful to do so because this is a case of men bashing other men for their ideals of 2D women.  You&#8217;ve also overgeneralized my statement that there is a cultural expectation of virginity in women, by <i>certain groups of men</i>, to &#8220;all men expect virginity.&#8221;  Perhaps that generalization sounds shallow, but it isn&#8217;t mine.  There is nuance missing here that was present in my article.</p>
<p>In any case my handling of the matter is primarily concerned with the superficial criticism (&#8220;You guys can&#8217;t get women, is that it?&#8221;) leveled at 2ch otaku by Western otaku.  It does not attempt to be a fundamental dissection of the underlying issues.</p>
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		<title>By: manga</title>
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		<dc:creator>manga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 05:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abrupt end. But better to end it if you forgot points. You can always write them in later.

From my understanding of this post I agree with you.

Which in a way makes me sad. Why must people be like this way? They should be able to handle this kind of thing. Most of the time anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abrupt end. But better to end it if you forgot points. You can always write them in later.</p>
<p>From my understanding of this post I agree with you.</p>
<p>Which in a way makes me sad. Why must people be like this way? They should be able to handle this kind of thing. Most of the time anyway.</p>
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